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I get a lot of weird spam from working at, but this one actually interested me. I pass it along to you now. Discuss!

Chris Brown and Rihanna: What do girls REALLY think?

New Survey Uncovers Interesting Results

New York: A new survey commissioned by GIRL SCOUTS OF THE USA through the BUZZ MARKETING GROUP has uncovered some interesting news regarding the reactions of girls to the highly publicized Chris Brown and Rihanna incident: 95 percent of girls surveyed say Chris Brown’s alleged actions are not acceptable or justifiable for any reason, and 48 percent believe that low self-esteem will be the primary reason for Rihanna getting back with Chris Brown.

Girl Scouts of the USA commissioned the study to ensure girl’s voices were accurately represented and to stress the importance of self-esteem among girls. The incident reportedly left young singer Rihanna battered and bruised at the hands of her singer boyfriend Chris Brown. Shortly after, it was widely reported by the Boston Public Health Commission that teens were believed to put Rihanna at fault for the alleged attack.

However, it seems Boston teens do not reflect the nationwide view among girls. The Girls Scouts of the USA uncovered that a majority of girls – nearly 59 percent - hold Chris Brown responsible for what happened, followed by 33 percent who place the blame on both Rihanna and Chris Brown.

“Girls are now telling us loud and clear- it is not OK to hit a woman,” says Tina Wells, CEO of Buzz Marketing Group. “That doesn’t mean they don’t sympathize with both parties. The girls are looking at the situation from all angles and understand that no one knows what really happened. They like Chris Brown- he is an idol for younger girls- and it was hard for them to believe at first.”

The findings did contain one disturbing trend among girls- it was the younger ones under the age of 13- who were more likely to blame Rihanna. Self-esteem is at the center of discussion for girls; as the study uncovered almost half of the respondents - 48 percent - believe that low self-esteem will be the primary reason for Rihanna getting back with Chris Brown. This reinforces the importance for parents to speak to daughters early and often.

“Overall, today’s girls are more savvy than often assumed,” says Leanne Gluck, Manager of uniquely ME!, the national Girl Scouts / Dove Self-Esteem Program. “The media attention surrounding this unfortunate incident presents an opportunity for parents and daughters to engage in open dialogue on the importance of self-esteem and healthy relationships.”

In addition to being the voice of girls, Girl Scouts of the USA recently launched a new Girl Scouts Leadership Experience which aims to empower girls with a strong sense of self and critical thinking skills to tackle issues such as low self-esteem. This learning model engages girls in a fun, experiential way to discover themselves, connect with others and take action to make the world a better place.

Survey results from Girl Scouts of the USA / Buzz Marketing Group:

* 95 percent believe Chris Brown’s alleged actions are not acceptable or justifiable for any reason
* 59 percent hold Chris Brown responsible for what happened
* 33 percent blame both Rihanna and Chris Brown for what happened
* 45 percent believe Rihanna could have provoked Chris Brown
* Girls 13-17 were more likely to think Rihanna provoked him in some way

The nationwide survey of 420 girls, not necessarily Girl Scouts, ages 8-17 was conducted in March by the Buzz Marketing Group and included questions on demographics and familiarity with both singers.

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I admit I didn't read anything but your opening and the statistics as I feel like a pile o poo right now, but I had to say... I think that the idea that people think, "she must have deserved it," comes from the idea that people try to relate other people's reactions to how they themselves would react and most people who are not abusive dickheads don't get the concept of hitting someone when they don't damned well deserve it.
It is not a stand or mindset saying women deserve abuse, it is just saying, "why else would you hit someone?"

I read about the ongoing poo-feeling, and for that I'm sorry.

I wonder if the way the "she deserve it" stats skew out has something to do with the lasting effects of a childhood they're still finishing up... so-and-so was bad, they got a whuppin.

Women almost always blame themselves no matter what the situation. Whether they are raped, beaten or whether they bump into a chair at a friends house, the woman will apologize.

So many women are carrying such gawd awful self-esteem that when it comes to a situation like this they will go for the jugular and project their own self-hate onto the woman in question, in this case, Rihanna.

Also there is this weird back bitey jealousy thing amongst women too. When this first came out I scrolled through threads where the women were elbowing each other in the eye to take take Chris Brown's side while seemingly impatient for "that bitch" to get out the way so they could take care of the man properly.

The phenomenon reminds me of how popular serial killers become after they are incarcerated. Ted Bundy received tons of fan letters and marriage proposals. I don't get that O.J. is suffering for female company much these days either.

The fact that this study shows that 95% of the girls don't think what he did is justifiable gives me hope, but the culture we live in as a whole is so filled with mixed messages that women and girls internalize... From everything I've seen and especially what I've seen and heard these past months I've been working with women who are victims of rape and domestic violence... we still have a HELL of a long way to go.

The interesting stats, to me, are still the ones about younger girls. The younger ones are the ones, in this survey, more likely to project onto the woman (and, I guess, themselves). And I'd love to know what the hell that stat represents.

And how can 33 percent find them both responsible, yet 95 percent find his actions inexcusable? How does THAT work?

I can see that, because it takes two to argue, and no one knows who was "at fault" for the argument if any -- we weren't there. But that in no way justifies the action Chris Brown took. Something like that.

I guess, but holding them "both responsible" for "what happened," to me, can only mean that they're both at fault for Rihanna getting the shit beat out of her. Which I reject. Both responsible for a heated argument, sure.

It would be interesting to see what questions were asked and what that 33% really represents. The only interpretation I can come up with is that maybe the 33% think they are both responsible for whatever provoked the fight, but 95% still think he shouldn't have resorted to violence.

That makes no sense to me, either. I can only guess that they were using different notions of "responsible," or using the word to apply to different aspects of the situation. My daughter wouldn't have been so ambiguous. I taught the kids from a very early age that there are no words alone that are a legitimate excuse for initiating violence.

That is a very sensible rule, sir.

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